PC build/ex PC compatibility

PC build/ex PC compatibility

PC build/ex PC compatibility

Thread started by PV on Monday, 3:38am August 31st with 14 replies. Views: 1,955

PV

889 posts

3:38am Aug 31st 15

Hey all,

I've been thinking of upgrading my PC recently as over the last few months I've bought a few upgrades so why not go the whole hog.

I've put some items in a list and wanted to know what you guys think as I haven't kept up to date with my pc parts over the last couple years.

Essentially I would like it to be a mid ranged gaming rig to play all the standard popular games, Dota 2, CS:GO etc, doesn't have to be high tier.

The last 2 items on the list are the parts I've upgraded and wish to use in the new PC, prefer it to be small and mobile (mini-ITX etc) if anyone can recommend a good PSU also that would be awesome.

So far without the PSU it's around $750 don't really want to go over $850, Cheers guys!

[IMG]http://i57.tinypic.com/2129zpx.png[/IMG]

Pattoh

866 posts

6:04am Aug 31st 15

I would probably wait for Skylake to come out to the mainstream in September so you can get onboard with DDR4 and apparently extra performance in games with the new CPU's. Prices for memory aren't too bad, will be slightly more but I think will be worth it in the long run.

For PSU's under $100 I can only recommend these two, I'd prefer the Antec VP550 because its cheaper and from a more consistent manufacturer, reviews are very good as well, downsides is its not modular and the CX500m has slightly better efficiency.

CX-500M (modular)

www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=15_535&products_id=22421

Antec VP550

www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=15_535&products_id=18877

$179 for a case is a little steep, look for something else and put the money to something better in the build

jvkec

4,180 posts

10:05am Aug 31st 15

By going mini itx you restrict yourself to what motherboards you can use, you don't need to spend $189 on a mobo, thats crazy haha.

If you can deal with it not being mini itx, you'll save some $$

Kayoss.

234 posts

10:23am Aug 31st 15 and edited 12:52pm Aug 31st 15

I have a mini-itx, although the mobo is expensive, I love having a smaller PC and don't think I'll get a full size again.

I have the Corsair Obsidian 250D, it's $40 cheaper then the case you put up. I have a gtx 970 ASUS Strix which fits snug, but it fits.

Those parts are fine you've listed, and for PSU I have the corsair RM650, but a corsair RM550 or Antec High Current Gamer will be fine for you (edit because of B's post). The $40 that you save by getting the Corsair 250D could go towards getting yourself the i5 4690K which you can overclock in the future. Also, if you do decide to get the overclockable CPU, the corsair 250d can fit the Corsair h100i CPU cooler (I have this also).

www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=187_1490&products_id=27941

B

1,203 posts

11:25am Aug 31st 15

BillyH

761 posts

4:14pm Aug 31st 15

Quick tip i74790k is good enough for the next 4 years of gaming.

add in a water cooler and you are looking at least 5 years.

sky lake is a fucking con. AMD will release zen CPU's next year to compete with HT CPU's that Intel has had for the last decade or so.

Personal opinion get i7 4790k if you can afford and get your self a h-97 pro-gamer mobo as well, small water cooler then overclock to 4.6ghz.

You will save money in the long run oh and ddr3 and ddr4 same performance. Currently so it is another marketing gimmick.

You're ram choice is also really good.

www.mwave.com.au/product/intel-core-i7-4790k-quad-core-lga-1150-40ghz-unlocked-cpu-processor-ab55541

$509

https://www.asus.com/au/Motherboards/H97PRO_GAMER/

$180(max)

www.mwave.com.au/product/thermaltake-water-30-performer-c-liquid-cpu-cooler-ab52685
$85

that is all you need for a psu to run this build you have.

www.mwave.com.au/product/antec-true-power-classic-tpc650-650w-power-supply-ab52778
$150 True power supply is 100x better than a bullshitty 750

Darkey

2,984 posts

4:39pm Aug 31st 15


oh and ddr3 and ddr4 same performance. Currently so it is another marketing gimmick.

Quote from Sp!troast on the 31st of August 2015

Why buy tech that is going to get outperformed by it's counterpart in a years time ? That's just stupid and you're pissing money up a wall

Sabes

4,437 posts

5:02pm Aug 31st 15


www.mwave.com.au/product/antec-true-power-classic-tpc650-650w-power-supply-ab52778
$150 True power supply is 100x better than a bullshitty 750

Quote from Sp!troast on the 31st of August 2015


Antec ftw

PV

889 posts

7:02pm Aug 31st 15

Thanks for the feedback guys, you've given me some good choices!

I'll keep doing some research and should be getting it setup within the next month or 2 after I have some spare funds.

Cheers all, I'll let you know what I come up with!

Still open to ideas and opinions until that time!

KhaOt!c

43 posts

7:52pm Aug 31st 15 and edited 9:08pm Aug 31st 15

Corsair 380T isn't exactly a small case compared to Corsair 250D,Fractal Node 304,Silverstone SG13
[SPOILER=Case Dimensions]Corsair 380T: 292mm - 356mm - 393mm (W × H × D)
Corsair 250D: 277mm - 290mm - 350mm (W × H × D)
Silverston SG13: 222mm - 181mm - 285mm (W × H × D)
Fractal Design Node 304: 250mm - 210mm - 374mm (W × H × D)[/SPOILER]
Prices from MSY:
[SPOILER=$705.00]Case: Corsair 250D/Fractal Node 304: $125.00
CPU: Intel i5 4590: $275.00
MOBO: Asus H97I-PLUS: $125.00
RAM: G.Skill Ares 8GB (4GBx2): $76.00
PSU: Antec HCG-520M 520W: $104.00[/SPOILER]
[SPOILER=$799.00]Case: Corsair 250D/Fractal Node 304: $125.00
CPU: Intel Xeon E3-1231V3: $369.00
MOBO: Asus H97I-PLUS: $125.00
RAM: G.Skill Ares 8GB (4GBx2): $76.00
PSU: Antec HCG-520M 520W: $104.00[/SPOILER]
[SPOILER=$858.00]Case: Corsair 250D/Fractal Node 304: $125.00
CPU: Intel Xeon E3-1231V3: $369.00
MOBO: Asus H97I-PLUS: $125.00
RAM: G.Skill Ripjaws-X 16GB (8GBx2): $135.00
PSU: Antec HCG-520M 520W: $104.00[/SPOILER]

Pattoh

866 posts

2:57am Sep 1st 15 and edited 3:26am Sep 1st 15


Quick tip i74790k is good enough for the next 4 years of gaming.

add in a water cooler and you are looking at least 5 years.

sky lake is a fucking con. AMD will release zen CPU's next year to compete with HT CPU's that Intel has had for the last decade or so.

Personal opinion get i7 4790k if you can afford and get your self a h-97 pro-gamer mobo as well, small water cooler then overclock to 4.6ghz.

You will save money in the long run oh and ddr3 and ddr4 same performance. Currently so it is another marketing gimmick.

You're ram choice is also really good.

www.mwave.com.au/product/intel-core-i7-4790k-quad-core-lga-1150-40ghz-unlocked-cpu-processor-ab55541

$509

https://www.asus.com/au/Motherboards/H97PRO_GAMER/

$180(max)

www.mwave.com.au/product/thermaltake-water-30-performer-c-liquid-cpu-cooler-ab52685
$85

that is all you need for a psu to run this build you have.

www.mwave.com.au/product/antec-true-power-classic-tpc650-650w-power-supply-ab52778
$150 True power supply is 100x better than a bullshitty 750

Quote from Sp!troast on the 31st of August 2015

Finding your post hard to take seriously, don't take it to heart man.

I5>i7 for gamers only, no need for HT in gaming.

Skylake isn't a con, yes it could be more for performance but its superior than Haswell with DDR4 compatibility alone.

Don't get me started on AMD CPU's we haven't even seen what they can do, they have been out of the game for years who knows if they can deliver, they weren't even the best when they were in.

Higher clock speed on DDR4 over DDR3 still comes in handy for some games and applications eg: ARMA 3, should get better over time, would rather have a compatible motherboard to support better tech than stick with ddr3

Overclock to 4.6ghz? You don't even have the CPU yet for all we know it could max out at 4ghz.

H97 motherboard with a unlocked CPU? You possibly will be able to do small overclocks, but H97's were made for people who didn't want a unlocked CPU but wanted the extra features that Z97 boards introduced. You want a Z97 board when doing overclocking I wouldn't go a H97 ever for that.

Antec TPC 750 and Antec TPC 650 are both the same platform, both are made by Seasonic, its a good choice either one depending on your needs.

BillyH

761 posts

10:53am Sep 1st 15




let someone a bit more technical than a software developer explain it all to you.

BTW My current build.

i74790k @ 4.6ghz oc(stock cooler)

asus h97 progamer

2x 120gb ssd
1x 512gb ssd

32gb ddr3 1600mhz corsair vengeance( iam a software developer i need the ram to run alot of apps)

gigabyte 650w true power psu. i blew my antec.
gainwood phantom gtx 980 oc edition @1400mhz.

nxzt gaming tower.

windows 10

Average fps in
metro 2033 - 90frames
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=502612233
shadow of mordor - 90-120fps http://images.akamai.steamusercontent.com/ugc/701785076187780912/7678A277FCA08AFD1A94B712F83EE576A2A4009B/
ark - 30-50fps
http://images.akamai.steamusercontent.com/ugc/27367497863397849/67588D4B908EC17BBA7B0A64B36059E09F39AE22/

Dying light - 90+ fps
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=459208067

Darkey

2,984 posts

11:06am Sep 1st 15

Spit you do understand DDR3 had all the same problems right ? If you do understand that why limit yourself to DDR3.

Pattoh

866 posts

11:33am Sep 1st 15





let someone a bit more technical than a software developer explain it all to you.

BTW My current build.

i74790k @ 4.6ghz oc(stock cooler)

asus h97 progamer

2x 120gb ssd
1x 512gb ssd

32gb ddr3 1600mhz corsair vengeance( iam a software developer i need the ram to run alot of apps)

gigabyte 650w true power psu. i blew my antec.
gainwood phantom gtx 980 oc edition @1400mhz.

nxzt gaming tower.

windows 10

Average fps in
metro 2033 - 90frames
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=502612233
shadow of mordor - 90-120fps http://images.akamai.steamusercontent.com/ugc/701785076187780912/7678A277FCA08AFD1A94B712F83EE576A2A4009B/
ark - 30-50fps
http://images.akamai.steamusercontent.com/ugc/27367497863397849/67588D4B908EC17BBA7B0A64B36059E09F39AE22/

Dying light - 90+ fps
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=459208067

Quote from Sp!troast on the 1st of September 2015

The only thing that you proved was that the H97 board has decent overclocking settings, but going to a H97 board for overclocking is a risk, why didn't they just call it a Z97 board?

I never said all games will benefit with DDR4, I said that some games will like Arma 3 which benefits a lot from clock speed will see gains. They showcased games that don't even benefit from clockspeed, in their results, not a good comparison if you ask me.

Everyone gets a bad egg at one point, but Seasonic is proven to be a good manufacturer of PSUs.

4.6ghz stable on a stock cooler is a quite good chip, but chips vary, everyones chips will have different boundaries 4.6ghz stable is not easy on stock cooling.